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[lizard821000]

hi all, hope this is right place to put this.

complete build of a complete myth evo 1

* 90% of parts bought separately, so very expensive build


* New wheels and bearings powdercoat
* Polished frame and swingarm powdercoated
* New needle bearings in swingarm
* New head stock bearings
* All fairings profesional full re-spray
* New tires pirelli demon
* HEL stainless brake lines
* New main bearings + seals in bottomend
* New brake pads and piston / seal caliper refurb
* Stainless and high tensile bolts to re-newed
* New chain / sprocket kit 14/41
* New screen clear
* Nw bar ends (OE) clutch / brake levers (OE)
* New speedo / clutch / throttle cables
* New Oxford LED indicators
* R & G Bobbins
* Polished top yoke
* R & G tail tidy
* OE FAR new mirrors
TECH

set up on a very causious set-up for road use.

* 6 speed
* 2 ring piston dome asso works
* 73070 cylinder
* 1:45 sqish
* PV blade from piston at 1.1 mm
* 35m mikuni
* Bunya ear airbox / full power evo 1 exhaust chamber / silencer Giannelli
* Not adjusted ignition timing
* Wheel dyno reads from 24.7 at 10.500 rpm mikuni
* Dyno reads using RD PHBH of 22.6 wheel at 10.100 rpm



thanks , shaun, uk

Messaggio modificato da lizard821000 il 14 March 2011 - 22:54

[Demetrio]

very beautiful compliments

[SoDDo]

you can lower the squish to a safe 0.9-1.0mm =D
another good boost in torque and power will be changing your to good crafted exhaust (the better you can find) from the user: mat.
good work anyway

[tomny]

Citazione

you can lower the squish to a safe 0.9-1.0mm =D
another good boost in torque and power will be changing your to good crafted exhaust (the better you can find) from the user: mat.
good work anyway

and there's one section for the presentation of our bikes

[lizard821000]

tomny, il Nov 26 2010, 10:29 AM, ha scritto:

and there's one section for the presentation of our bikes

hi sorry, if admin can move to correct place

squish cannot be reduced any more unless i machine the c.head , drop base gaskets ( which will effect my port timing) or use a flat piston with a 200H head. with my set up its not possible to get lower squish .
thanks for your comments .

shaun

[mitico92]

that's not a good work, 24,7 hp is not a good goal.
this is a stock mito's power graphic.

[lizard821000]

mitico92, il Nov 26 2010, 03:17 PM, ha scritto:

that's not a good work, 24,7 hp is not a good goal.
this is a stock mito's power graphic.

hi, i know , i was not as happy as i could have been but my dyno result is 24 from wheel, so around 27 bhp from crank. if i changed to flat piston 1 ring, 200H c.head also raise bae gasket for better port timing because mine is slightly out at the moment then i kinow i can get more power. is there any thing else i can do for more power?? i built the bike with every thing de-restriced so dont know why i have low power?? any ideas??

thanks

Messaggio modificato da lizard821000 il 27 November 2010 - 09:26

[skiddolo]

lizard821000, il Nov 27 2010, 09:24 AM, ha scritto:

hi, i know , i was not as happy as i could have been but my dyno result is 24 from wheel, so around 27 bhp from crank. if i changed to flat piston 1 ring, 200H c.head also raise bae gasket for better port timing because mine is slightly out at the moment then i kinow i can get more power. is there any thing else i can do for more power?? i built the bike with every thing de-restriced so dont know why i have low power?? any ideas??

thanks

take a good exaust from user "mat"

[RiNuCCio]

L'antifurto ha vinto

[125+1]

RiNuCCio, il Nov 27 2010, 11:02 AM, ha scritto:

L'antifurto ha vinto

buaauzzauhzauhzauhauha!!!! Troppo forte questa!

[lizard821000]

125+1, il Nov 27 2010, 12:03 PM, ha scritto:

buaauzzauhzauhzauhauha!!!! Troppo forte questa!

what does this mean?? my google translatior is rubbish lol

[mitico92]

lizard821000, il Nov 27 2010, 09:24 AM, ha scritto:

hi, i know , i was not as happy as i could have been but my dyno result is 24 from wheel, so around 27 bhp from crank. if i changed to flat piston 1 ring, 200H c.head also raise bae gasket for better port timing because mine is slightly out at the moment then i kinow i can get more power. is there any thing else i can do for more power?? i built the bike with every thing de-restriced so dont know why i have low power?? any ideas??

thanks

that dyno result is from wheel, and it was a stock mito with original exhaust.
probably you made some mistake whit carburation or engine settings.
use pistons with 2 ring, try to make the original parts of you're engine work better.
this is an example of a stock mito, with an accurate setting of engine and carburation, the exhaust is the one used in seven speed mitos.

that mito had 2 ring original piston and the dyno result is from wheels.

Messaggio modificato da mitico92 il 27 November 2010 - 12:09

[RiNuCCio]

lizard821000, il Nov 27 2010, 11:13 AM, ha scritto:

what does this mean?? my google translatior is rubbish lol

Your anti-theft system is very very very good

[lizard821000]

RiNuCCio, il Nov 27 2010, 01:35 PM, ha scritto:

Your anti-theft system is very very very good

oh!! haha, the bike is kept off road and double locked plus coverd, its cool .

[lizard821000]

mitico92, il Nov 27 2010, 01:08 PM, ha scritto:

that dyno result is from wheel, and it was a stock mito with original exhaust.
probably you made some mistake whit carburation or engine settings.
use pistons with 2 ring, try to make the original parts of you're engine work better.
this is an example of a stock mito, with an accurate setting of engine and carburation, the exhaust is the one used in seven speed mitos.

that mito had 2 ring original piston and the dyno result is from wheels.

that is very impressive..... i built my mito to exact evo 1 spec. only 2 things i did not have was the 7 speed bottom end and ignition timing for the mikuni 35mm. maybe it is my carb set up then? i know that all mikuni 35mm evo come with 7 speed so maybe it is better for th mikuni. any advise for more tuning would be cool because i wantmore BHP. i am using a fully open exhaust from evo 1 bike and full air intake with horns, 160 psi from cylinder too. using original cagiva conrod and cylinder. ?? im stuck with getting more power if stock is producing more than mine lol please , any advise . had new main bearings fitted too, would that contribte to less bhp till worn in?

thanks

shun

Messaggio modificato da lizard821000 il 27 November 2010 - 15:10

[mitico92]

the first step is to set perfectly the rdc and the squish and to have a good head.
you can find the head's quote here in the forum, look for mototecnica article.
there you will find lot of information to set up your engine and your carburetor.
the second step consist of getting power by increasing the efficience of your cylinder, unfortunately you'll need to get in touch with someone that can make your cylinder work better.
the third step needs an optimization of crankshaft, carters, piston rod exc.
as for the second step you need someone capable.
you need also to know that the best exhaust for mito's engine is the artigianale sp one, and it is produced by mat.
you can get in touch with him by private message.
there is also a programmable ignition unit called zeeltronic.

sorry for my english but it's difficult to use tecnical language...

Messaggio modificato da mitico92 il 27 November 2010 - 16:12

[lizard821000]

mitico92, il Nov 27 2010, 05:09 PM, ha scritto:

the first step is to set perfectly the rdc and the squish and to have a good head.
you can find the head's quote here in the forum, look for mototecnica article.
there you will find lot of information to set up your engine and your carburetor.
the second step consist of getting power by increasing the efficience of your cylinder, unfortunately you'll need to get in touch with someone that can make your cylinder work better.
the third step needs an optimization of crankshaft, carters, piston rod exc.
as for the second step you need someone capable.
you need also to know that the best exhaust for mito's engine is the artigianale sp one, and it is produced by mat.
you can get in touch with him by private message.
there is also a programmable ignition unit called zeeltronic.

sorry for my english but it's difficult to use tecnical language...

hi, thanks for your reply, i know its difficult to exchange good tech info between dfferant langueges. are you talking about port mapping of cylindr and what is rdc? i will send mat a message about the exhaust thanks. my clinder is original evo 1 cylinder but im using a 6 speed bottom end instead of a 7 speed. maybe this is having an effect on performance too. my squish is quite large at 1.55 , i speak regular to cagiva4ever in 125sportbike forum. not possible to lower my suish anymore with my set up unless i machine head or change to 200H c.head and use flat piston. due to me using the dome piston with the 73070 cylinder i haveto drop down base gaskets to optain even very poor 1.55 squis, effecting my port timing at piston at BDC. so there are a few things i can do to improve bhp by sound of it. many thanks for all info so far.

shaun

[mitico92]

i don't know how to say rdc in english, i'm sorry...
for example, 13:1 is an rdc, you know?
however there's no power difference between 7 speed bottom and 6 speed one, use the one you prefer...

[speedfight91]

take the original cagiva 2007 gold stickers and the black plexiglass

[Mito Evo]

Demetrio, il Nov 26 2010, 03:35 AM, ha scritto:

very beautiful compliments